No Deal?

ESPN Jayson Stark thinks the deal is off:

Yet another official with one of these three teams says the Manny-Bay deal is dead. In the aftermath, the teams involved seem unsure of what happened. The Pirates are blaming the Marlins. The Marlins are blaming the Pirates. And the Red Sox aren't too happy with either of them.

Ken Rosenthal of Fox also says the deal is dead.

There is still a chance that the Sox will make a deal with just the Marlins but the return will be less. The worst thing to come out of this is the possibility of the Rays getting Jason Bay making their team more formidable down the stretch.

UPDATE: The Bucs are shopping Bay to other clubs now but talks with Toronto did not work so they are looking to Tampa Bay.

UPDATE 2: EXTRA BASES says the talks are still on and this will go to the deadline.

UPDATE 3: Hold on for the ride, now SI reports that the Dodgers are back in for a Manny trade.

The potential blockbuster trade that would have sent embattled Boston slugger Manny Ramirez to the Marlins has hit a snag, but the Red Sox are now talking to the Los Angeles Dodgers, as well, SI.com has learned.

The Dodgers have offered young outfielder Andre Ethier, but Boston is believed to prefer Matt Kemp.

The Marlins deal isn't believed to be dead, but it appears Florida was unhappy with one or more aspects of the potential blockbuster.

The Red Sox, who appear motivated to trade Ramirez, have spent most of their time on the Marlins over the past 24 hours. But sources say the Dodgers have always remained interested

tick....tick....tick.....and where's the bullpen help?